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't attack the president. they attacked nancy pelosi and harry reid. they avoided talking about -- >> but here, they have to go one on one with the president because he's the one that they're fighting with. it is not really harry reid and nancy pelosi leading the charge. >> bill: the other thing they say, we can absorb this. it won't be so bad. $1.2 trillion, that's over ten years. yet the pentagon comes out yesterday with a -- not with a study, they reported that they've already told 800,000 civilian employees you're going to face a furlough if this kicks in. that means they take one day a week off. that's a 20% cut in their pay. again, i'm trying to get in the mindset of republicans who think it is a good idea to let this happen. >> well, even unless -- if you look at the defense spending that we would go back, this would roughly be what the defense department was spending in 2006-2007 when they're waging two wars. maybe the defense department could cut back. the pentagon has never been able to do a full audit. it is risky because the white house put out a memo. i'm sure you s
are applied. harry reid and other democrats, however, respond to that. i think this can be done responsibly. whether it is domestic spending or defense. what the president does have in his advantage here is republicans are somewhat divided in this. i think it is important for the republican caucus to stick together on this. dagen: what about that i am a conspirators sometimes, what if the economy continues to chug along at the casting, then it kind of points to the fact that more cuts should have been. you can say i am an idiot. >> i think the administration is concerned because their base does not want to see this. they have political concerns. i do not think they are practical and the terms of the government's ability to move forward and provide services and so forth. they are more worried about the political out, i think. connell: lower gdp estimates, or is there at least some individual companies that will be affected? >> the spending that obama has wanted, he has gotten. spending has increased. what do we have to show for it? the slowest economic recovery in three generations. dagen: s
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